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EPISODE 139: Make Government Beautiful and Functional Again

@JTLonsdale sits down with @jgebbia

First, he digitized the federal retirement process, cutting it down from six months to mere days.

Now, as America's Chief Design Officer, he’s set his sights even higher: modernizing the nation’s 27,000 .gov websites and delivering an Airbnb-like experience.

(00:00) Episode intro

(01:15) Lifelong Democrat to Trump White House

(07:50) Text from Elon / Joining DOGE

(10:20) “The Mine” & fixing federal retirement

(13:50) “What if we did it in a week?”

(21:45) What happened to DOGE?

(23:30) Becoming America’s Chief Design Officer

(26:45) Inside the Oval Office with Pres. Trump

(31:00) Fixing 27,000 .gov websites

(34:00) Making America beautiful & functional again

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